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searching for the ideal stop

16. October 2024, by Patrick Pfister
Technical Analysis,  Education

When you invest, you want to protect your investments. Therefore, people use stops. Not using stops is like driving a car downhill without brakes. Colleagues often argue that stops are bad because you get stopped out too early and miss the following move up. I usually ask them “what kind of stop are you using?” I get answers like

  • No stop
  • Fixed amount stop
  • Percentage stop
  • Average True Range stop (“ATR”)
  • Trailing stop

So what is the “ideal” stop? If you have absolutely no idea, try the popular indicator (“Supertrend”) often used as a good way to start:

20241016 01 Supertrend
It is a good start, but often late, or in volatile sessions, you will miss out the upper half of the move. Plus, it does not start when you buy a stock, but it has fixed rules for long and short stops.

I have tried all sorts of stops and came to conclusion, that one single stop is not working for me, instead, I use a combination of stops. It requires coding, yes, but it is worth it.

So my stop system looks rather like this:

stop system

Initially, as you buy share, you have to ask yourself “what is my personal risk tolerance?” or “how much am I willing to lose if my analysis is completely wrong?”

Some people have a fixed percentage amount (e.g. 10%), others use an ATR. Keep in mind that if you trade volatile (e.g. biotech) stocks that your ATR may be bigger (e.g. 18%) than your personal risk tolerance. I suggest you to use the minimum of the two. At the same time, a trailing stop is in place. Keep the fixed stop in place until the trailing stop surpasses the fixed stop. Now you can switch and follow the trailing stop instead.

But what trailing stop to use?

Again, there is a variety of choice: fixed amount-, percentage-, ATR-, … -trailing stops

Which one is “ideal” mainly depends on what you are trading. My personal choice is an ATR-trailing stop as it considers the volatility of the underlying.

The advantage of a (long) trailing stop is obvious: it moves up along with a stock, but never moves down. Thus, it looks in profits while protecting the investments downside.

So where to start your investment? Typically, you can find an entry the traditional way, e.g. a MACD-V crossover:

combined

So you would buy in point (1) and move your trailing stop along on the way up.

In this particular example, you would be stopped out ahead of the MACD-V sell signal in point (2) giving you a nice ~8% profit advantage.

Is the trailing stop always better?

No.

Sometimes the trailing stop is giving you the better profit, sometimes the indicator sell signal. There is no general rule for it. Eventually if you keep trading the same asset over and over again, you may find out what works better for you, but in general, market price action decides.

Don’t forget: when you get stopped out, it is like you hit “pause” on your music player. The market takes a rest, eventually reverses, but it could as well resume its price action in the direction of the previous trend. Just as you have a “stop-loss” in place, you should also have a “stop-buy” in place, ready telling you when the move resumes.

I have made great experience using stops and over time, I found many ways to customized it even further. What is “risk”? To me, risk is only what you cannot control. Stops are a great tool, but don’t be lulled into a false sense of security: stops are not the holy grail of zero risk, because they don’t protect against gaps. You can minimize this risk only by diversifying into several securities.

++Happy Trading++

About the author

Patrick Pfister

Patrick Pfister is the President of the Swiss Association of Market Technicians (SAMT) and a seasoned technical analyst based in Zurich, Switzerland with a passion for unraveling the complexities of financial markets through data-driven insights and analytical expertise. With a solid academic background in mathematics and computer science, combined with more than 20 years of hands-on experience in the financial industry, Patrick has established himself as a trusted authority in the field of technical analysis.

Patrick embarked on a career that has seen his work with top financial institutions, where he has honed his skills in interpreting market trends, identifying patterns, and developing innovative trading strategies. His deep understanding of statistical models, quantitative analysis, and risk management has enabled him to make sound investment decisions in dynamic market environments.

Patrick is known for his meticulous attention to detail, his ability to communicate complex concepts in a clear and concise manner, and his commitment to staying at the forefront of technological advancements in the financial industry. He is a sought-after speaker at industry conferences and seminars, where he shares his knowledge and expertise with fellow professionals and aspiring analysts.

In addition to his work as a technical analyst, Patrick is also a mentor and educator, guiding the next generation of analysts and researchers in the field of financial analysis. His dedication to fostering talent and promoting excellence in the industry is a testament to his commitment to advancing the field of technical analysis.

Outside of his professional endeavors, Patrick is an avid traveler, an aviation enthusiast, and a lifelong learner who is always seeking new challenges and opportunities for personal growth. He believes in the power of continuous learning, adaptability, and perseverance as the keys to success in both the financial markets and in life.

Patrick's unwavering dedication to excellence, his innovative approach to technical analysis, predicated on multiple-timeframe turnaround patterns, and his passion for empowering others makes him a true asset to the financial industry and a respected figure in the world of technical analysis. .

Having published his research through a Wallstreet research company, you will find his posts now regularly on LinkedIn as well as on the BLOG of SAMT-org.ch.

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